Sunday, January 21, 2007

The Bible Affirms Creation and Debunks Evolution

A common problem I see with debates between Bible believing Creationists and secular evolutionists is that the evolutionist likes to set the ground rules. They love to throw around the words “fact” or “myth’ when there is no possible way to prove such assertions.

It would be one thing if they were simply claiming that their words were opinion in which case, their constant unsupportable statements would be palatable. But when they condescend to the rest of us from their high scientific "mountain of evidence" and then proceed to make statements that they themselves know to be unsubstantiated, they simply look foolish.

More honesty in this debate would be nice but I don't expect it from the other side. This is why I will state openly that my creationist perspective is not falsifiable by way of the definition of science as secular science defines it (i.e. only naturalistic methodologies can be allowed to explain the universe). Obviously, if "Science" is defined as anything not involving God then the discussion is over.

Now, I think Creationism is science but not in the narrow-minded manner from which secularists proceed. Likewise, I also grant that evolution IS science because it IS falsifiable. It is a forensic science that cannot be duplicated in the present but we can point to things that would, THEORETICALLY, disprove the notion of evolution even though it happened in the past.

I don’t claim that evolution is “myth” even though by most secularists standards (at least when they are applying said standards to Creationism) it is. But I am not using those standards because they are dishonest.

There are two verifiable ways of KNOWING that God created just as the Bible says. Neither are provable using the scientific method as secularists define it. However, it is provable using another method…

The Bible itself proves it.

If God created the clockwork universe and human life as we know it, He would have a rationale for doing so. It would stand to reason that He would explain this rationale in a way that could not be forged or faked but that would not bias free will. He would simply provide evidence of His love for us and let the chips fall where they may.

So how to explain this without bias? The Bible is an amazing answer to this conundrum which is missed by so many people.
    -It is full of scientific and prophetic statements that no man could ever conceive of writing on His own yet it reads in an honest and human way.
    -It is 66 books written by over 40 authors and yet it holds together as one story with an overarching plot that does not contradict itself.
    -It constantly uses the technique of telling the future in advance to prove that mere mortals were not the actual authors but rather, a type of scribe.
    -It proves that said author is outside of the dimension of time so as to give credence to the words without beating people over the head with the message.
    -It is subtle yet profound.
    -It has great importance for those who accept that it was authored by God but means little (i.e. is a “myth") to those who choose not to believe.
    -It is chock full of verifiable scientific and prophetic statements that no writer of the era could know. So much so that many skeptics try to show that it was written AFTER the fact because it would be impossible for it to have been written ahead of the events it foretells or the science it envisions. Yet, all such debunking attempts have failed.
Because the Bible is true.

Quite simply, the Bible demonstrates the reality of a transcendent Being of immeasurable knowledge and power and it is this book that says that this Being created the universe. It also specifically says that God DID NOT use evolution as his preferred method of creation. It is as if God knew that there would be a future divide between those who would take Him at His word and those who would not. He gives us no middle ground.

People who dismiss what He has to say do so, I believe, at their own peril. This debate IS important because evolution is specifically designed to undermine the message of the Gospel. If evolution is true then Christ died for nothing and therefore, he is not God. Leading evolutionists know this and this is why such a weak idea, from a scientific standpoint, is pushed so heavily in the secular world.

Saturday, January 20, 2007

A Creation Discussion with a Seeker

Recently I had the opportunity to discuss some Creation Science with a genuine seeker. I quote him out below:

I think there must have been a gap between the 6th day creation of man and woman and Adam and Eve who I think may have been created on the 8th day or sometime thereafter.

The "gap" is only implied (and it is a very subtle implication indeed) between verse 1 and 2 of Genesis 1. There is no room for any other interpretation of the rest of the chapter other than the days being contiguous with no gaps. We can debate how long the days were but there are no gaps, subtly implied or otherwise, in the text. Now, to be clear, I do accept the possibility of a gap of time between verse one and two but this would only affect the age of the universe and would have nothing to do with how long life itself took to be created.

But why do you think that we need to find one? I can tell you that you do not need to search for a gap to explain modern scientific findings. And for sure the Bible says that life did not evolve.

We have no knowledge of God’s measurement of time since it is on a scale of eternity.


Actually we do have knowledge of his measurement of time. He created the system of time we use (even in secular society) today. For example, there is no natural cycle of 7 days yet that is our week. The Bible talks in several places about the creation week as a literal week. While many people like to dismiss Genesis they forget that Exodus has a very specific reference to the creation week as being literal.

Right there in the middle of the ten commandments we read in Exodus 20:11: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.


If the days are of indeterminate length then this command makes no sense. Indeed, it makes no sense if they are anything other than 24 hour periods of time.

Feel free to say that both Genesis and Exodus are wrong from a scientific perspective (I personally believe they harmonize with science perfectly) but please don't claim that God has not given us specific information on the timing of creation.



Perhaps the women were from the first creation though there are no human remains in the fossil record during the period of dinosaurs that I know of.


Here's the thing. There is no need to look for a gap in Genesis for where the fossils came from. First, if there was a preCreation it is said that it was utterly destroyed. We see no evidence of it today. Everything, at least on earth, was made new starting in Gen. 1:2. Secondly, the Bible is very specific that no death occured until after Adam sinned. I think you may have noticed something very salient about fossils... they're dead.

This is central to the doctrine of Christianity. The savvy anti-Christianist will know that if he can undermine Corinthians 15:21, he can undermine the basic teaching of the Bible:

"For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead."


Christ died physically (not just figurativly or spiritually) because Adam brought physical death into the world.

If there was death before Adam then Adam was not responsible and therefore, Christ died for nothing and the whole of the Bible is a fable.

Evolution is based on the notion that death has been going on long before Adam came along (if he ever came along at all). The promotion of the idea of death being a natural process rather than the result of the entropic principle that came as a result of Adam's disobedience is central to atheistic evolutionism. The realty that Christians buy into evolution is a sad commentary on the general understanding of the teachings of Scripture.

I have a hard time believing God scattered fossils about after the time of Adam and Eve.


Fossils are the dead remains of creatures instantly covered by mud, sand, and debris. God did not "scatter" them but rather, the animals (and some people but not a lot) were caught in some kind of deluge that trapped them. Fossils do not occur unless the creature was quickly buried in mud or sand. You think that fossils take a long time to form because the evolutionists have promoted this disinformation for a long time. In fact, fossils, sedementary layers, crustal uplifts, erosion, and so on are better explained by catastrophism and not uniformitarianism. Fossils have been found that were formed in just a few hundred years.

That would only confuse the issue and God is not a God of confusion but of order.


I agree. But we can look down through the history of science where the Bible said one thing and contemporary scientists said another and the Bible turned out to be correct and scientists wrong. You ask, Why would God write the Bible with incorrect information? But realize, the Bible is confirmed all the time as new research is done and as a result we realize that God was not trying to confuse anyone. He was seeking to enlighten them.

If we tell a kid looking out a skyscraper window that those are actually people below and not ants, does the kid wonder if we are lying? Why would we deceive him when he can tell that those are just little tiny insects.

Only later does he realize that we were right. His subsequent observations tell him that we were not trying to confuse him but to inform him.

One of my favorite examples of this from the Bible is Paul's description of the elements that make up all that we see. He explained in Romans that the universe is made up of things too small to observe with the naked eye. At the time, the scientists reading his letters surely would have scoffed given that it was commonly understood that the elements were obviously Earth, Wind, and Fire.

But we know this was a fantasy.

But place ourselves in the shoes of the secular scientists of the day. Why would God claim that the physical universe was made up of things that were invisible when everyone knew that it was made up of earth, wind, and fire? Was God just being figurative or trying to confuse us?

Just because we don't understand why God says he created in 6 days even though it appears that the earth is much older doesn't mean there isn't a scientifically knowable explanation. Just as the Psalmist wrote there are currents in the oceans (and he wrote this at a time when people thought that the oceans were just big lakes) doesn't mean that the Psalmist was wrong. In fact, there are currents and scientists first made conjectures about such currents from reading Scripture.

God is not joking with us and he is not putting out false clues. How about if we just assume we don't know everything and take him at his Word?